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    ,Mags Campbell
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    I was over at the cemetery on Sunday 25th May and was shocked at the state of the place. The grass doesn’t seem to have been cut for ages and its looking shabby. Does anyone know how often the grass should be cut? Noticed the outside area had been cut but assume that’s on a different Council “account” – what happened to “Joined Up” working. Also saw the new sign with an arrow pointing to Killin Cemetery. Talk about stating the obvious!

    #37295
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    ,DavidWMcVean
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    @Mags Campbell 1012 wrote:

    I was over at the cemetery on Sunday 25th May and was shocked at the state of the place. The grass doesn’t seem to have been cut for ages and its looking shabby. Does anyone know how often the grass should be cut? Noticed the outside area had been cut but assume that’s on a different Council “account” – what happened to “Joined Up” working. Also saw the new sign with an arrow pointing to Killin Cemetery. Talk about stating the obvious!

    Hey Mag, I am David McVean from the states, visiting Edinburgh and soon to be in Killin. Glad to see that you have brought the poor state of the cemetery to someones attention. My wife and I do research which brings us to some pretty sorry grave sites. Were has the respect gone for our Kin. We will be walking the Killin cemetery and checking with the Parishes for the surname McVean. They occupied the Batavaime croft around 1490 to 1885. We will be staying at Vic Hughes B&B for a bit while we try to find living Kin in the area. We will be in Perth, Inverness, Dingwal, Dores, Nairn, and Creif. Give me an e-mail back if you would please. dwmcvean@aol.com God Bless the Clan’s Dave

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    ,Brian Lawrence
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    Yes, a tidy, trim cemetery is not a huge demand following a life’s work, is it ? My late father, having looked after that ground 1955-56 would be none too pleased to learn of it’s lack of maintenance. Some tree lined, flower bedecked examples are a pleasure to walk through for surviving family members.
    B.L.

    #37307
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    ,Jennings
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    when we visit Killin at the beginning of the month, my husband wanted to visit the burial ground in the village. i just wanted to know why its locked and why you can only have the key for half an hour? we enjoyed going down there very much. its a very peaceful place.

    #37296
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    ,DavidWMcVean
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    Brian Lawrence;1103 wrote:
    Yes, a tidy, trim cemetery is not a huge demand following a life’s work, is it ? My late father, having looked after that ground 1955-56 would be none too pleased to learn of it’s lack of maintenance. Some tree lined, flower bedecked examples are a pleasure to walk through for surviving family members.
    B.L.

    Hey ya Brian, Glad to see your response to the poor state of the Killin cemetery. Not only your father but anyone that can find the cemetery would be appalled at the very poor condition of the Cemetery. It’s hard to imagine that with all the proof the condition – nothing is done. While I was in Killin this June for a week I spent several hours just uncovering fallen head stones grown over with years of accumulated grass, moss and trees, trying to find my kins head stones. I spoke with 3 people that share the same disappointment of the cemetery. I have also seen several e-mails from other visitors that can’t understand why our ancestors are disgraced in this way. I can think of several ways to show the respect forgotten by some Scot’s. The church for one should be most responsible even if it is an abandoned cemetery. Church members could volunteer an hour or two twice a year. The local police could enlist the help of young hooligans as part of their punishment.
    Twice a year there could be a local city pride drive to clean up the local points of interest. It shouldn’t take much if any money. Those that couldn’t help because of physical limitations could give a gallon of gas or donate the use of a weed whacker or mower. Heck if worse comes to worse put a few sheep within the walls to maintain the grass and trees. I am retired and on a limited income but I will personally give 20 pounds to who ever is designated responsible for the cemetery clean up. I challenge any good Scot to match this. I am beginning to wonder if there are any loyal Scot’s still in Killin or are the last buried in the Killin cemetery and Culloden?
    God Bless Scotland and the Clans.
    David McVean
    Cloquet MN. USA dwmcvean@aol.com dwmcvean@q.com

    #37304
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    ,isabel cowan
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    My sister and I were recently in cemetry and shocked at neglect. Who is responsible for the upkeep?

    #37297
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    ,DavidWMcVean
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    Hi Isabel, David McVean from Duluth Minnesota. For as many people that are aware of the sorry state of the Killin cemetery I am amazed that nothing has been done yet. Not sure who you can contact or if you live in Killin so that you can actually pursue getting something done. I would contact these folks first if I lived in Killin, the Stirling council, the local church, Killin News Paper. People in the know might be, Ian or Mag Campbell, Vic Hughes at the Craig Buie bed & Breakfast. When my wife and I were there in June I personally spoke to 4 locals that knew of the cemeteries poor state. I have offered to donate 20 pounds to get things rolling but to date no interest. Our ancestors would be ashamed that they fought and died at Culloden to perpetuate the sorry surviving Scot’s in Killin. All I have heard so far is the same irresponsible crap. It’s not our responsibility, don’t have the money, don’t have the time, Church has to few old folk to help. The church knows that scripture commands them to do otherwise. If I ever make it back to Killin, I will make plans on cleaning up what the complacent locals refuse to.
    David McVean dwmcvean@q.com

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    ,isabel cowan
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    I have contacted Stirling County Council and the group responsible for the upkeep of the cemetery are Stirling Counties Cemeteries Service. namely:-Barbara Docherty, Cemeteries Officer. Environment Service, Viewforth, Stirling. I asked why the Cemetery is in such poor condition.

    #37298
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    ,DavidWMcVean
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    isabel cowan;1128 wrote:
    I have contacted Stirling County Council and the group responsible for the upkeep of the cemetery are Stirling Counties Cemeteries Service. namely:-Barbara Docherty, Cemeteries Officer. Environment Service, Viewforth, Stirling. I asked why the Cemetery is in such poor condition.

    Great job Isabel, Thanks from all the poor souls resting in the Killin cemetery.
    Do you have kin in Killin or the cemetery?
    Any chance you have there e-mail or snail mail address so I can follow up from the US side? David McVean dwmcvean@q.com or dwmcvean@aol.com

    #37291
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    ,Iain Campbell
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    I went down for a look and i see what you are saying, what a mess…. Its not only Killin,,, i was in Killern, Balfron, Drymen, today,,, all the same,,, the nearer Stirling you go the better they all look………..Doune, Callander, Dunblane, very tidy indeed……………It’s the same with all the council services,,,as long as Stirling is OK, to he** with the outlaying villages… So well done Isabell.

    #37299
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    ,DavidWMcVean
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    Iain Campbell;1131 wrote:
    I went down for a look and i see what you are saying, what a mess…. Its not only Killin,,, i was in Killern, Balfron, Drymen, today,,, all the same,,, the nearer Stirling you go the better they all look………..Doune, Callander, Dunblane, very tidy indeed……………It’s the same with all the council services,,,as long as Stirling is OK, to he** with the outlaying villages… So well done Isabell.

    Hey Iain it’s really great to see you getting involved. I wish I lived there in Killin. I would be a burr in the councils butt. I hate politicians at any level that discriminate and treat you different than those in there back yard. I really had hoped that the Scottish politician’s were above the rest of the world. Broke my bubble. Two of my McVean Kin were ministers in Killin and Kenmore for a long time and I am sure they would be sickened to see the poor state of affairs in the Stirling Council district. Time to vote them out and run for office your self. That’s the only way to make changes. Please keep up the good work. David McVean Duluth MN. dwmcvean@q.com or dwmcvean@aol.com

    #37300
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    ,DavidWMcVean
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    Hayya Jennings clan. David McVean in Cloquet Minnesota. My surname begins in Killin around Batavaime, Botwarnie. They were there until just after the Clearance. Lived in the area for about 300 years. It sounds like in your letter that your remarks were about the McNab Cemetery. We spoke to the Clan Chief while there in June. It sounded like he had plans to make repairs to the special place of all the chiefs. I have a question? Have you been to the old Killin cemetery to see a true poor state of affairs in there. No key required. Enter around through the side of the Killin Hotel to the left near the river. I would be embarrased to live there and admit that I knew of it’s condition and did nothing to show respect for those resting there in. Take care. David McVean dwmcvean@q.com and dwmcvean@aol.com

    #37303
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    ,Tazitam
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    Hi all, Im new to Killin but have been reading the comments about the state of the Cemetery,,the one on the bridge over the Dochart ?,,,no where near The Killin Hotel ? so I am thinking is it the current Cemetery on Pier Rd you think is in a bad state of repair or the ancient burial ground ?? am confused but would be more than happy to do a day a week to spruce the one on the bridge if someone will supply a flymo and a strimmer,,Tam

    #37301
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    ,DavidWMcVean
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    Tazitam;1153 wrote:
    Hi all, Hayya Tam. David McVean in the states. Im new to Killin but have been reading the comments about the state of the Cemetery,,the one on the bridge over the Dochart ?,,,no I am quite sure that what you are referring to is the McNab cemetery on the island of Inch or Innes Bouie. That one is in poor condition as well but not as bad as the old cemetery behind the Killin Hotel. To enter you would have to go to the left and down along side the garden and around behind the Killin hotel. Between the river and the hotel. Steel gates with what I think is all that is left of the original church of Killin. where near The Killin Hotel ? so I am thinking is it the current Cemetery on Pier Rd you think is in a bad state of repair or the ancient burial ground ?? am confused but would be more than happy to do a day a week to spruce the one on the bridge I would hesitate to do anything to the McNab burial grounds on the island with out permission of the Clan Chief. James the current chief. Lives in Firth I believe. He visits from time to time. The Folk Lore center that has the key could put you in touch with James. I spoke with James the Chief of McNab’s while in Killin in June and it sounds as though they have plans and funds to spruce up the McNab Cheif’s resting place on Inch Bouie. if someone will supply a flymo and a strimmer me being in the states am not familiar with the words in blue. Tam

    Tam I spent 3 days in the ancient Cemetery behind the Hotel with no tools but a piece of slate to clean moss and grass off the stones. If you are willing to help with the clean up I offered as you may have seen 20 pounds to help with the cost of cleaning up. Let me know if you are interested and I will need you address to forward you the money. If you pass on helping I understand. You most likely have no kin or connection there and no reason to show the respect the dead deserve. I must however praise you for offering to maintain the McNab site even though I assume you have no kin there either. I have much more respect for you than the locals that turn a blind eye to there acheint kin. I can be reached at dwmcvean@q.com or dwmcvean@aol.com David McVean

    #37292
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    ,Mags Campbell
    Participant

    There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding the Killin Cemetry or cemetries. Let me sort it out once and for all.

    There are three cemetries in Killin. The MacNab Buriel Ground at the Dochart Bridge – I believe only clan chiefs etc etc can be buried here. The second one is the “old” cemetry behind the Killin Hotel. It has been closed for c.80-100 years and is now very overgrown and probably only ever visited by those people trying to trace their family trees. Finally there is the “new” cemetry at the Pier Road – it was this one that I was complaining about a few months ago. It is the Council’s responsibility to keep the place in order and recently they seem to be doing a pretty poor job of it. If asked they will put it down to a lack of money which is probably true but I believe its more likely because Killin is so far away from the administrative centre that they chose to forget about the us!

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